(politics) Harris as VP

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
08/11/2020 at 16:26 • Filed to: None

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dogisbadob > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:31

Is anyone really surprised?

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:32

I’d go for Chris Harris as VP and Clarkson for Secretary of the Interior (and Transportation, to save budget $$).

James May to run the Smithsonian.

Richard Hammond to run the NTSB.

Andy Wilman for Treasury.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:40

*shrugs*

good a pick as any i spose... wich is to say im pretty sure all in favour and all against will turn on eachother and not bother voting and trumpy stays another 4

but then...thats pretty much what i expect to happen regardless of who got picked..

prove me wrong

please?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > dogisbadob
08/11/2020 at 16:40

No, especially after that photo of his notepad.

Just wondering how this will play with black voters who had their reservations about her because of her AG background (her history with Willie notwithstanding).

For Sweden > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:40

Oof that’s awkward...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
08/11/2020 at 16:42

I’m in! And The Rock for president.

I’d vote for a rock at this point.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > For Sweden
08/11/2020 at 16:43

Kinja'd!!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/11/2020 at 16:44

I sure hope enough of his support has eroded over the past 4 years...

bmil128 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:44

No but she seems like an opportunist looking to constantly move up like Frank Underwood. Let’s hope Joe doesn’t meet her in a subway station somewhere...

dogisbadob > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:44

If Biden’s racism wasn’t a deal breaker for black people , then hers shouldn’t be, either.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > bmil128
08/11/2020 at 16:47

Willie’s still alive...

Svend > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/11/2020 at 16:49

Me too.

All this ‘no more trumpie’, but the voters don’t turn out.

t rumpie should never of been elected, he shouldn’t of even been an option on the ballot, but here we are with the risk of the fucktard having a second term in office.

For Sweden > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:50

Asking Senator Harris to not hold a grudge for segregationist policies Joe Biden did not fight is asking quite a lot tbh

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > bmil128
08/11/2020 at 16:55

Brown appointed Harris [his girlfriend] to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and then to the Medical Assistance Commission – positions that paid her more than $400,000 over five years, according to SF Weekly.

dogisbadob > For Sweden
08/11/2020 at 16:55

yeah, but she took his shit to the next level as AG tho

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 16:55

I don’t really have much of an opinion on Harris and that’s a bad thing. I hope she can bring some real fire to the Biden campaign and make voters come out.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
08/11/2020 at 16:58

No opinion is better than a negative opinion, I guess.

She can trade fire with Trump, that’s for sure. Too bad she won’t be on the stage against him.

For Sweden > dogisbadob
08/11/2020 at 17:01

You don’t need to hold a grudge against people when you can lock them up in prison!

nermal > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:04

Preemptive Trump Victory Dance P arty!

Kinja'd!!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > nermal
08/11/2020 at 17:06

You think? We’ll see.

dogisbadob > For Sweden
08/11/2020 at 17:07

an d give them chainsaws while they’re in

The Snowman > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:07

Consider that 80,000 per year is quite low in SF

For Sweden > dogisbadob
08/11/2020 at 17:08

I think logging is illegal in California. Only the fires can clear out the forests.

CobraJoe > For Sweden
08/11/2020 at 17:10

Ya know, that’s one of the things I actually like about Biden, he’s willing to listen to people and adjust his positions.

Feels very revolutionary for a presidential nominee now.

ttyymmnn > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:11

She’s qualified. Best candidate? Hard to say. She will be seen as divisive by some, and I think there’s a lot of ammo for the GOP from her days as CA DA. If you’re specifically trying to court the African American voter, there may have been better choices. As a fighter, though, there may be none better.

For Sweden > CobraJoe
08/11/2020 at 17:15

He’s going to have trouble adjusting this position tbh

Kinja'd!!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers

nermal > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:16

Reminder that this happened:

The Trump Team is soiling themselves with glee over the ads that they can now create using Harris and Biden arguing with their own words. She called him a racist! It’s gonna be great.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:16

Shoulda been Duckworth. I’m already seeing the “Kamala is a Cop” trolling from the right-wingers

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Snowman
08/11/2020 at 17:18

$140k/yr in today’s money. Corruption is corruption...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ttyymmnn
08/11/2020 at 17:20

She can definitely go toe-to-toe with Trump, but when will she be on the stage with him? The shady history with Willie Brown isn’t great...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
08/11/2020 at 17:23

I don’t know who the best choice was, but don’t think she was it.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > nermal
08/11/2020 at 17:28

Oh, I remember.

I’m guessing the Trump team will use this audio :

“I do [redacted] believe you are a racist.”

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:29

I don’t think that any party wants to win this election.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > For Sweden
08/11/2020 at 17:29

yep

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/11/2020 at 17:31

Can you even imagine if the Ds eff this up again?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:35

Their trying their best to fuck it up

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/11/2020 at 17:36

Bimala’s no Hillary, but yeah.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/11/2020 at 17:49

This is crazy (granted, Trump and Biden are only 3 years apart) :

“ Joe Biden isn’t a Boomer; he’s of the Silent Generation (which has never produced a president before). We actually skipped the silent gen (JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and GHWBush were all “GI Generation”; Clinton, GWBush and Trump were Boomers, and Obama was Gen X. This is the first time we’re going BACK TWO GENERATIONS.

(All Generational cohorts per Strauss-Howe)“

fintail > nermal
08/11/2020 at 17:51

Pretty sure he’d collapse if he actually danced that joyously,

fintail > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 17:54

Yup, just ask 45's kids.

But I doubt the Dems would counter with that, gotta be civil.

fintail > nermal
08/11/2020 at 17:56

Just awesome if one wants 4 more years of the worst regime in American history.

Establishment Ds never learn, and won’t fight back.

nermal > fintail
08/11/2020 at 18:10

“...4 more years of the worst regime in American history.” —- Fortunately Obama can’t run again, but surely he taught Biden everything he needs to know.

“Establishment Ds never learn” —- The politicians themselves are simply doing what works. It’s the people that keep voting them back into office that are the problem. Vote for somebody different !

fintail > nermal
08/11/2020 at 18:18

Yeah, Obama really dug the country in a hole, thank heavens a real brave hero came around to save it. Praise be for the republican party, standing for honesty, ethics, and progress. America should be proud of the current regime.

LOL if it worked for Ds, they’d be putting up a better fight and seeing better results. Voting for someone different is cool in theory, impossible in practice at this time and place anyway.

CobraJoe > For Sweden
08/11/2020 at 18:20

From the link:

“And not once — never — did I believe I acted inappropriately,” Biden added. “If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully.”

Also, that article was from nearly a year and a half ago, with no real updates since then.

I mean, it doesn't erase the actions that have been done, but if seems like he has adjusted his position.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 18:31

Your wish has come true... you have no choice.

nermal > fintail
08/11/2020 at 18:31

You forgot screwing over old people and the children, in exchange for lower taxes.

EL_ULY > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 18:46

Her educational accomplishments are excellent.

The USA hates that!

Shit’s fucked with either the racist, creepy, moronic nutcase or the creepy, dumb, useless old man

. It’s all about the foos that are going to be working under them. Tru fax! and that’s why I think s hit’s fucked. Fuck everything, shit will never be correct. W e all just gotta adapt unti l all the old, racist people eventually die off.

Sovande > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 19:02

She's fine and will be a fine president when uncle joe goes all the way round the bend.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 19:44

I lived in the Bay Area for 12 years, including SF, and honestly didn’t know the Willie Brown story until I saw your reference above. Honestly that seems like an awful lot of digging, and...well look at the competition. Those who want to use it as ammo will, without batting an eyelid at the stinking rotting mess on their side. I don’t know if it will change any votes.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
08/11/2020 at 19:46

Right wingers : “Kamala is a cop!”

Me: “wait, isn’t that a good thing in your book? So vote for them now !”

fintail > nermal
08/11/2020 at 20:10

Seeing that no Dem has done anything meaningful about the trickle down lie, I’ll pin that one as much on them as on the deceptive opposition who continues that particular fantasy. When it comes down to it, I have no problem saying both sides are shit, slightly different side of the same corporatist establishment coin.

RallyWrench > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 20:30

Ugh. Similar feelings to Hillary. Happy the nominee is a woman, and in this case a woman of color because our country desperately must elevate them, but not thrilled it’s her. I hope this doesn’t make me an asshole... She’s undeniably qualified, but like Hillary, in a “technically correct” kind of way. All the boxes are checked, but it’s because a shape-shifting political robot has checked them. That said, I’ve been happy to vote for her as a Senator because I think she wields her legal skill and represents our state well there, despite her imperfect record in other offices . I don’t think that would translate well to the White House though. And because this basically rubber-stamps her for 2024, I’m worried about that. Should the Biden/Harris ticket win this year, which I fervently hope they do despite a strong “meh” on both of them, can she beat whatever the Republicans lob up in 4 years? Probably not, because this country has proven itself capable of electing the worst caricature of America ever to breathe oxygen and burn down any shred of progress on everything from civil rights to social justice and environmental responsibility, and those dickheads people aren’t going away. So the D’s will have self-fucked once again, and we will resume the dark timeline. To summarize and tie in to where I began, ugh.

BigBlock440 > CobraJoe
08/11/2020 at 20:44

Ya know, that’s one of the things I actually like about Biden, he’s willing to listen to people and adjust his positions.

They used to call that flip-floping. Or evolving, depending on what letter was next to your name.

The Snowman > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 21:11

Wow the equivalent of a $140,000 for a lawyer from a prestigious school working in San Francisco. Yeah sounds super corrupt I'm sure this will be her downfall.

For Sweden > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/11/2020 at 21:45

A Biden-Bottoms ticket would win 40+ states, but Joe read Profiles in Courage and thinks Senators are next to godliness.

MUSASHI66 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 22:18

She probably smelled the best.

superdave847 > nermal
08/11/2020 at 23:02

Never happened. Stay in Russia.

superdave847 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 23:03

Perfect for the troll farm.

superdave847 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 23:04

I think it was a good pick.

Chris Harris would have been better though so Joe and Chris could do donuts in their respective Trans Am and 1M near the South Lawn .

https://politics.theonion.com/shirtless-biden-washes-trans-am-in-white-house-driveway-1819570732

Textured Soy Protein > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/11/2020 at 23:58

Yo I legit wasn’t even going to say nothing about this, Dem ticket are imperfect but totally fine enough for me. But now that Cheeto chimed in, I'm just satisfied with his butthurtedness. Ladies y’all can get some more milage out of your nasty woman swag.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/phony-kamala-trump-campaign-responds-harris-vp-pick-n1236467

Textured Soy Protein > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/12/2020 at 00:06

Come on, I know it’s easy to say that the Dem ticket is blah yuck etc screw the 2 party system, but the reality is the GOP has become a crazy far right party farther to the right than European fringe right parties. But it’s...o ne of our 2 main parties, yay!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

I’m definitely not excited about either of these 2 where I had a connection to some others in the primary. But they’re at least interested in friggin *governing* and trying to do that with some kind of logic to improve— at least somewhat—th e lot of everybody. Which is a damn sight more than we can say about what’s happened with Cheeto. We’re a half- failed state at this point with an out- of- control outbreak much of the rest of the western world has already moved on from somewhat, because a large chunk of our “mainstream” politics is BONKERS.

Please, if not enthusiastically, make sure to vote for the not-bonkers ones.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein
08/12/2020 at 09:10

Would be easy to call using “nasty” racist if he hadn’t already used it on Hillary - ha!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > superdave847
08/12/2020 at 09:10

She’s a fighter.

Harris getting an M2C makes me want one even more (he had an E9x, too).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MUSASHI66
08/12/2020 at 09:11

I’ll admit that I laughed hard when I saw the post:

She must have passed the sniff test.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Snowman
08/12/2020 at 09:13

Seriously? You have n o problem with a dude giving his girlfriend a paid state position? It makes no difference whether she was qualified - that’s impropriety.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyWrench
08/12/2020 at 09:15

Time will tell. Are you convinced Joe will be a one-termer?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/12/2020 at 09:17

I didn’t know either, before the primary. It’s still shady regardless.

But yes - Trump has to go.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > EL_ULY
08/12/2020 at 09:18

Let’s hope the current racists are doing a shit job at indoctrinating their kids.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
08/12/2020 at 09:19

My vote doesn’t matter in this deep red state. Might toss a protest vote to Jo Jorgenson...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > fintail
08/12/2020 at 09:29

Man, I hope that whole damn family is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law once he’s out of office (in a few months, fingers crossed).

The Snowman > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 09:55

If a person is qualified that is all I care about. Now when someone uses a public office to make money they would not otherwise get I see that as much more of an issue. For example if you owned a hotel and had the military rent rooms from you even though it is out of their way that would be bad. Or if you used your influence to get family members trademarks in China that would be bad. If someone got a job they were qualified for 30 years ago and happened to be banging the person who gave them the job I would say no I don't care.

CobraJoe > BigBlock440
08/12/2020 at 10:02

T hey used to call that flip-floping. Or evolving, depending on what letter was next to your name.

Eh, There are positive and negative descriptions to every personality trait.

So far though, I haven’t heard of any ads or attacks claiming that he’s flip flopping, only that he is being controlled by the radical left. (Which is far more ridiculous , but probably far more effective for Trump’s base).

From what I have seen of Biden though, he seems to be willing to compromise after talking issues through with people, not as a response to pressure from the opposition. Granted, it could all just be a ploy to get elected, but it’s a hell of a lot more palatable than some other recent strategies.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Snowman
08/12/2020 at 10:02

Yeah, absolutely. Trump and his family should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (hopefully charges will be filed in early January).

My point is, corruption is corruption, regardless of scale, and it all speaks to character. She was half his age and used a relationship with someone in power to help get her start in politics. Not a good look... It’s decades ago, but I won’t be surprised if Trump & Co. bring it up.

The Snowman > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 10:07

Yeah I fully don't care. I do not think all corruption is equal.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Snowman
08/12/2020 at 10:11

You might not care, but some might, and it might be enough to matter (hopefully not - Trump has to go). Biden will be 78 - this was arguably the biggest VP pick in history.

Corruption, however “ minor” , speaks to character.

The Snowman > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 10:20

I think you overestimate the American voting public. Remember there was an audio recording of Trump saying grab them by the pussy and approximately no one changed their vote. Not even the evangelicals.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Snowman
08/12/2020 at 10:23

After 2016, I think every D understands they need to get out and vote, regardless of how conflicted they might feel about their candidate.

Hopefully enough of Trump’s support has eroded in the past 4 years to make it a landslide loss. Would love to see him go away as one of history’s biggest Losers .

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Snowman
08/12/2020 at 10:26

Can you even imagine a time that would give results like these? I was 6 in ‘84.

Kinja'd!!!

RallyWrench > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 11:38

If I recall correctly, he committed to that in an interview some time back. He’s also since referred to himself as a “transitional candidate.” I mean, he’ll be what, 81 in 2024?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyWrench
08/12/2020 at 11:43

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

My dad’s 82. He’s still quite sharp, but mental decline is a real thing...

Biden will be 78 on November 20. He was born during WWII.

He would be the only president of the “ Silent Generation” , technically.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 12:27

Yeah, it’s politics. And this level of shadiness seems pretty mild given the world we’re living in. The story is that she was 29, dated Brown who was 65 or something while he was estranged to his wife (i.e. no secret), and Brown bought her a BMW and helped get her some politically connected jobs? And then later once she won her DA seat (which she was elected to after all) she basically told Brown I owe you nothing, and I won’t bat an eyelid at going after your corruption?

I don’t think Trump & co want to touch the whole dating bit (but who are we kidding, of course they will without seeing a hint of irony). The rest of it...the word nepotism comes to mind.

Willie Brown is an EXTREMELY connected man in the Bay Area. Quite literally a king maker. I have friends who were courting him trying to get buzz for their damn high end clothing brand. It’s not crazy to think that he, especially in his position back then, had the power to pull strings for people in his circle. Shady? Yes, absolutely. But is this anything new for how things work? I don’t think so. She’s blazed her own path since then as DA, AG, and in the senate. Any real talking points against her will lie in that record. It’d be pretty hilarious for Trump/Pence to say anything about her Willie Brown connection while the first daughter and her damn husband are running around playing government. BUT OF COURSE THEY WILL. And the base will lap it up. A good deal of it can be boiled down to being a sexist double standard.

p.s. - I’m not disagreeing with you, it certainly is shady. And this is history I didn’t know about her until you mentioned it so I appreciate it. But compared to the alternative am I going to change my vote to T/P (ha!)? I don’t think so :)

RallyWrench > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 12:34

That’s the one. My grandma was sharp as a tack until 93, and it’s wonderful when that’s the case. But Biden already appears to have lost a step and at some point people born in the 40's need to get the F out of the way in terms of leadership. Wild that even the silent generation has been strangled out of the presidency.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RallyWrench
08/12/2020 at 13:19

Biden definitely has lost a step, but he tries to mix it up with tough questioners as if he hasn’t, and the results are clear. Admittedly, he’s always had trouble with his words.

Went straight from WWII “hero” to “ draft dodger” .

fintail > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 13:30

We need some sympathetic state DAs and similar.

I know NY will do it, NJ might get on board too, probably CA - the old man, his ridiculous devilspawn, and senior bootlickers all probably have something for prosecution .

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/12/2020 at 13:30

once she won her DA seat (which she was elected to after all) she basically told Brown I owe you nothing, and I won’t bat an eyelid at going after your corruption

Which tells me she clearly never loved him, which tells me she was willing to use her body to get with someone with power and influence for her own personal political gain. If someone’s willing to do that to get ahead, what else are they willing to do? What deals are they willing to make?

It’s just so shitty and depressing that these are the kind of people that we get to choose from to lead our country. Maybe I’m being to harsh, but politics is power, and power (and the desire for it) corrupts...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > fintail
08/12/2020 at 13:36

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/05/deutsche-bank-donald-trump-financial-records-new-york

fintail > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 13:44

We can only hope. Amazing coincidence DB laundered money for Russian interests and also was one of the few who would issue any line of credit to 45. Almost like they were a conduit.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 13:45

You might be right - but it comes back to the age old question of would you turn in your loved one you know committed a crime? She could’ve loved him, but also be acknowledging that hey I have a job to do and a serious one at that, so I’m going to do it and I’m not going to protect you blindly .

I don’t think those two things need to be mutually exclusive. But I totally get what you’re saying too. It’s a level of cut-throatedness that regular folks like us would never be OK with in to in the first place. Sad that this is what “serving the people” has become.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/12/2020 at 14:03

She threatened to go after him for jaywalking...

Show me an example of a couple 30 years apart in age who were clearly together out of love. Just saying... she was clearly with him for access . Plenty of younger guys with old, rich women, too, so it goes both ways.

“Serving the people” - if she saw her “sacrifice” with Willie in the big picture of the “good of the people”, then what else will she ethically sacrifice to see her vision for what she wants American to be play out? I’m not saying her vision is wrong, but too many politicians do the sleaziest of things in service of “the greater good” ( as they see it).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > fintail
08/12/2020 at 14:15

So glad Biden’s given no sign he’ll pardon him.

MUSASHI66 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 16:24

I love her standards. “You’re a racist rapist.... but I’ll be your vp.”

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MUSASHI66
08/12/2020 at 16:26

Men are means to an end.

First Willie, now Joe (not implying that ...) .

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 16:38

Absolutely. I’m not a fan of her track record or her politics, but this truly is the better of two evils right now (and by a long shot).

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/12/2020 at 16:42

Yes, by a considerable margin.

MUSASHI66 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2020 at 17:10

Politicians on both sides are masters of double speak and we gobble up their shit like it’s caviar.